Love is unconditional. Love is from the heart. Love is putting the needs of the other person before yourself. Love is forgetting to think of the long term consequences both financially and emotionally. (This last one has gotten me many times). My family and friends tell me I have much to caring and loving heart.
rebelfighter
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God is Love
by The Rebel inon my my way to work today i had a tract with the words " god is love" thrust in my hand by a young man, of some church denomination.
now if i were to give the tract to a " witness" he would find the tract repulsive, repellent, blasphemous.
" in fact if i i were a witness i would be punished for reading such material.. why would this be?
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God is Love
by The Rebel inon my my way to work today i had a tract with the words " god is love" thrust in my hand by a young man, of some church denomination.
now if i were to give the tract to a " witness" he would find the tract repulsive, repellent, blasphemous.
" in fact if i i were a witness i would be punished for reading such material.. why would this be?
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rebelfighter
Rebel,
I wake up this morning, it is 4 AM here, and the last thing I expect to see on this forum is "God is Love". Every time I have said that on this forum I have gotten blasted.
Here goes and I totally expect the dislike button to be hit multiple times. I believe in God, I am very spiritual and do not and have not believed in Religion for 15 years because I believe they are all man made and I do not believe in the Bible.
Funny thing is over the 5 years the "Elder" and I talked we discussed my spirituality and how I worshipped God and he knew I was really into Gospel music. We talked about all the songs that really lifted me up. I knew no better and he never told me maybe once he said oh that is something we would not listen to because of the cross. Oh now I have figured out there are a lot more he would not listen to LOL.
When the "Elder" sent me the email "Good Bye, Have a Nice Life" . We then exchanged 20 days of emails. Mine were very simple just bible verses of love, charity and giving maybe a quarter of a page. One day I defended all my charity charity work and asked him how in God's eyes that could possibly be wrong when all we do is helping children and abused women. His were 2 to 3 page sermons as to why I read the Bible wrong on love, charity and giving. He told me I needed to read the Book of Acts. So I did, ok I read it. It clearly states meet your accuser eye to eye. I have caught you in a string of lies. Why are you refusing? I asked that question in every email. Never an answer.
My best girlfriend is an Ordained Minister and she was reading these with me neither of us could make a lick of sense out of any of these sermons.
Finally I just said answer my initial email and all the questions or I am reporting you.
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Elders and Attendants sing, clap and turn backs on Street Preacher after Duluth RC.
by ToesUp invery strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.
on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.
(around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.
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rebelfighter
Growing up in the city known for its weekly/daily protest. A far better approach would be for a large group to gather with large signs that can be held well above all those Elder/attendees heads. Signs that read "WT hides Pedophiles ask your Elders" "ARC 1,700 Victim by 1,000 Pedophile, NOT 1 reported to authorties. " keep it legal at a distance not smack in their faces, don't cause a riot. Have the signs bright so they can be seen from a distance. Make sure your dress is appropriate. Keep it calm and respectable nothing rude or obnoxious.
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Not too my son...
by The Rebel inwill i say " orlando, your hair is too long, and needs to be cut short" and never will i say " orlando, invites to birthday parties can't be accepted".
and i will buy my son books he wants to read, books that bring him happiness, and that he understands.
and by so doing, i hope he will acquire happy memories of his childhood, so that the sensitive and delicate, in him will be allowed to grow.
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rebelfighter
My son is 10 and at 5 sensible enough to offer these clever lines to me " Please no more bible"........I replied " but the end is coming soon" and he said " GROW UP DAD" Rebel
I love it but our kids do speak the truth if we listen to them. The teachers and I had started having concerns about my son early on but by 2nd grade he became extremely restless in school. When questioned about homework his response was it is boring repetitive crap. He was then tested and tested at 5th grade level across the board in 2 languages. Education became a nightmare at that point because he was already the youngest in his class.
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Not too my son...
by The Rebel inwill i say " orlando, your hair is too long, and needs to be cut short" and never will i say " orlando, invites to birthday parties can't be accepted".
and i will buy my son books he wants to read, books that bring him happiness, and that he understands.
and by so doing, i hope he will acquire happy memories of his childhood, so that the sensitive and delicate, in him will be allowed to grow.
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rebelfighter
Never a JW but when I decided to have children the three things that would never be repeated.
I vowed not to drink once I had children except on rare occasions so when my daughter became a young adult she thought social drinking was a glass of wine once every six months.
When my children broke the rules we sat down and talked about what they did and why they did it. There was no hitting or spanking when they got to a certain age I could just look across the room with the motherly look and they knew oops maybe I should not be doing this.
Most importantly I taught my children how to make decisions at a very early age. Giving them choices with simple things first. All along the way giving them the resources to research, think and choose what they wanted. As young adults they will still come to me and ask me what I think they should do on some things but I will still tell them this is my opinion BUT I expect you to go do your research and make your own decision for what will best fit your long range needs. You will never hurt my feelings if you choose a plan that differs from my opinion.
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In love with a JW girl
by rastapau inneed advise.
i was in a relation with a jw girl for almost three years(im am not jw) and we are so inlove with each other until someone saw us from her congregation and she was disfellowed and that where the oddness happened.
her family and friends are not talking to her anymore, she wants me to stop seeing and talking to her anymore not until i became a baptized jw.
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rebelfighter
I was never a JW but you should press my avatar and read my introduction to this forum. My advice to you RUN, do not look back. Very sorry for the heartache this young lady has caused you but you can find much better women in the real world who do not come with CULT ties. If I read your story correctly you have children already the WT HATES children. Read about the child abuse, ARC, pedophile issues, and go through this site and read some of the comments about the children's cartoon Sophia and Caleb that WT produces for the kids total emotional abuse.
Go to JWFACTS research this religion before you do anymore studies, these people LIE, LIE, LIE, I am totally convinced that they would not know the truth if it hit them in the face.
Welcome to the forum, here you are among friends trust all of us, those at the KH are NOT your friends they will stab you in your back the minute you turn around. Think about that statement someone from your girlfriend's congregation turned her in to the Elders when they saw you to together and she got disfellowshiped. Now how loving is that? Do you want to live a live being watched all the time by every member of the congregation?
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My Lawyers Letter To The Elders
by pale.emperor infor those of you that asked, below is a copy of my solicitors letter to the elders in my old congregation.
he sent a similar one directly to bethel and a medical directive to my daughters gp to go on her medical records that i have already given permission for her to have a blood transfusion should she need one:.
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rebelfighter
No Apologies,
I am a worldly lady of 65 who raised 2 children by myself. I was introduced to this JW ....... approximately 2 years ago. There is a term we in what you all call the "worldly" community call AGE appropriate material and trust me that ain't age appropriate it!!! Try maybe we'll let's say late teens. JWS have no clue when it comes to what is age appropriate when it comes to raising kids. I have seen some of the discussion topics for the meetings and know full well the kids are sitting right there, excuse me epic fail. There is a time and a place to discuss certain things when "little" ears are not around. That picture shown above is absolutely, totally classified as emotional abuse and someone or a group of someone's should be held accountable for the nightmares that type of damage can cause to a little mind. That is pure terror. Along with that horrid bunker video shown at the convention these people should be brought up on charges of child abuse.
RANT OVER
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Explaining JW Beleifs To Non JW's
by pale.emperor inmy new girlfriend asked me over dinner last night what jw's believe.
as i sat there explaining it i realized how ridiculous it sounds and was slightly embarrassed that i used to believe this crap for 31 years.. try and read this and imagine hearing it for the first time.... me: well... jw believe that god's name is jehovah and that his son is jesus christ.
they believe that jesus died on a stake and not a cross and that in the year 1914 he personally chosen the jw's as his one true religion.
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rebelfighter
Stuckinarut2,
"Or that women's brains are lesser in ability than males"
When I came across that video as a worldly person I just about flipped out. I could not believe that in this day and age someone would possibly stand before a crowd and say those words. I actually had to watch it a couple of times because I was in total shock. Do these idiots not realize how many extremely powerful women there are in this world?
But now nothing that comes out of these idiots mouths from NY would shock me.
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Elders Advice Backfired And Now Im The Happiest I've Ever Been
by pale.emperor injust wanted to update you guys of the amazing couple of weeks i've had in recovering from the cult.. i was attending the meetings still just so i could see my daughter in the kingdom hall and have her sit we me half the time.
i had no intention of ever becoming a jw again but was hoping to be re-instated and just not turn up ever again so i could at least see my family.
but then an elder said something to me that changed all that.
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ToesUp,
Thanks but that is the way I raised my children. I guided my kids, my mother told me what to do even when I was 50 years old, does not mean I listened. So I made it my policy never to tell my children what to do but to always give them plenty of resources and the ability to make decisions through critical thinking. I would of course stir them away from illegal choices.
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Elders Advice Backfired And Now Im The Happiest I've Ever Been
by pale.emperor injust wanted to update you guys of the amazing couple of weeks i've had in recovering from the cult.. i was attending the meetings still just so i could see my daughter in the kingdom hall and have her sit we me half the time.
i had no intention of ever becoming a jw again but was hoping to be re-instated and just not turn up ever again so i could at least see my family.
but then an elder said something to me that changed all that.
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rebelfighter
Exactly what Heaven said above. I never once said a negative thing about my children's father in front of or to them. In time they made their own decision. My daughter is getting married in October, although her father will be attending she stated mom you raised me YOU will walk me down the aisle.
Kids know very early what is going on, what is right, what is wrong they do not need to be told. They can sense right from wrong. If you are happy they can sense that also. Try always to be positive when you are with your daughter.